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Re: [YUNSIL] PROTO PICS- MadMen Don Draper H&C Set

It's the same proto. No changes have been made.

Oh, ok then. :) Maybe you should mark that in the post so no one else gets the wrong idea.

Can you take a full-length photo showing the suit from each side and a couple at about 45 degree angle, one facing forward and one facing away from the camera?

Here's the list you posted earlier last week:

- Longer lapels
- Jacket chest pocket placed lower with wider opening
- Lower jacket pockets and darts pushed back a little.
- Wider opening on shirt sleeves
- Lapel line break more vertical
- Add prong and holes to belt


Let me add the following, which compliments and adds to the above:

- Belt loops need to be thinner in width and flatter to the pant
- Jacket chest pocket - make sure the rectangle not be overlapped/covered by the lapel and proportions width:height are correct
- Lower jacket pockets need to be pushed back more than a little. :) On the 1:1 jacket, the spare between the front edge of the pocket and the suit edge looks almost the same as the width of the pocket itself.
- Verify the height of the space under the jacket pockets relative to the width of the pockets
- Concurring with Jake, arms on jacket looking a bit thick around the elbow area - verify the taper of the arms against 1:1 suit
- Any chance for smaller buttons on the front of the jacket?
- Jacket doesn't look long enough (which has been mentioned before)
- In a similar vein to the taper of the arms, the pants should also have a visible taper which is authentic to the period (side photos will help check this)

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Re: [YUNSIL] PROTO PICS- MadMen Don Draper H&C Set

Oh, ok then. :) Maybe you should mark that in the post so no one else gets the wrong idea.

Can you take a full-length photo showing the suit from each side and a couple at about 45 degree angle, one facing forward and one facing away from the camera?

Here's the list you posted earlier last week:

- Longer lapels
- Jacket chest pocket placed lower with wider opening
- Lower jacket pockets and darts pushed back a little.
- Wider opening on shirt sleeves
- Lapel line break more vertical
- Add prong and holes to belt


Let me add the following, which compliments and adds to the above:

- Belt loops need to be thinner in width and flatter to the pant
- Jacket chest pocket - make sure the rectangle not be overlapped/covered by the lapel and proportions width:height are correct
- Lower jacket pockets need to be pushed back more than a little. :) On the 1:1 jacket, the spare between the front edge of the pocket and the suit edge looks almost the same as the width of the pocket itself.
- Verify the height of the space under the jacket pockets relative to the width of the pockets
- Concurring with Jake, arms on jacket looking a bit thick around the elbow area - verify the taper of the arms against 1:1 suit
- Any chance for smaller buttons on the front of the jacket?
- Jacket doesn't look long enough (which has been mentioned before)
- In a similar vein to the taper of the arms, the pants should also have a visible taper which is authentic to the period (side photos will help check this)

mm-1.png

Jeez man is there anything you did like? :lol
Some good points made.
Here is the updated list
- Longer lapels
- Jacket chest pocket placed lower with wider opening
- Lower jacket pockets and darts pushed back a little more than a little bit.
- Wider opening on shirt sleeves
- Lapel line break more vertical
- Add prong and holes to belt
- Belt loops thinner and closer to pants
- Tighter fit on jacket arms
- Slightly longer jacket

I'll look into smaller button options. The taper on the pants is the same as the butt shot I took on the previous page.
Here is the pic I plan on sending Yunsil for some of the changes

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Re: [YUNSIL] PROTO PICS- MadMen Don Draper H&C Set

Good points raised, but we do have to remember it is 1/6 scale. Some requests would be near impossible at this scale. I hope there is improvement made, as it is sort of looking like just another suit... But we also need to be reasonable due to scale
 
Re: [YUNSIL] PROTO PICS- MadMen Don Draper H&C Set

I think the changes you're sending will look great Croozer. Just a few tweaks and these will be amazing
 
Re: [YUNSIL] PROTO PICS- MadMen Don Draper H&C Set

Good points raised, but we do have to remember it is 1/6 scale. Some requests would be near impossible at this scale. I hope there is improvement made, as it is sort of looking like just another suit... But we also need to be reasonable due to scale

Exactly there's only so many suitable options in 1/6. The smaller buttons is one that comes to mind. Remember these have to be stitched in and still have to be functional so I'm not sure if this is a change we're going to get.

I think the changes you're sending will look great Croozer. Just a few tweaks and these will be amazing

I think so too. It's all about the small details that's going to set it apart.

Guys I'm going to hold off on collecting payments until after I send the changes to Yunsil and hear what she has to say. If anybody else has any other changes in mind please say so. I plan on sending the changes to Yunsil on Sunday night.
 
Re: [YUNSIL] PROTO PICS- MadMen Don Draper H&C Set

Jeez man is there anything you did like? :lol

Ha! Me liking it (I do) doesn't mean it's issue-free. :) The devil's always in the details and sweating them is what takes something from good to great.

Be careful with the marked up image you're sending. Rather be careful of how it's interpreted, because the distance between the bottom of the waist pocket and the bottom edge of the jacket is too short compared to the width of the pocket itself (check the proportions on the episode source photo(s)). Also, the chest pocket rectangle probably needs to be taller in relation to its width, so don't have her interpret the marked up image as instructions to make it thinner/shorter - this is what I was previously talking about when mentioning that pocket).
 
Re: [YUNSIL] PROTO PICS- MadMen Don Draper H&C Set

I'm just about good with it as-is. If she comes back and says she can't do most of those changes then fine. I'd like to get this at some point.
 
Re: [YUNSIL] PROTO PICS- MadMen Don Draper H&C Set

Frankly I'd be happy with it as is, but if people want some tweaks. That paint up is marvellous.

As someone who sews, there's just limits of tailoring in 1:6 relative to the original because of the thickness and behaviour of fabric, so the beltloops may be as good as they get.
 
Re: [YUNSIL] PROTO PICS- MadMen Don Draper H&C Set -List Closed

So Yunsil is able to make all the changes except smaller buttons and the thinner belt loops.
New proto in about three weeks. Will collect balance payments then.
Also the list is now closed as Yunsil wanted to know the final number.
 
Re: [YUNSIL] PROTO PICS- MadMen Don Draper H&C Set -List Closed

I know I'm late -- I've been out of town and missed this last round of discussion. This might already be being addressed, but in general I thought the suit looked a bit baggy and boxy. In particular, the shoulders seem a hair broad, the arms look much too puffy, and the mid-section seems wide.

Perhaps some of the changes being employed might address that. Again, I realize I'm a week late to the discussion and it's probably too late to adjust anything. But if the boxiness/bagginess can be addressed at all, I think it would look much better.

Also, I'm just curious: the fabric in the CU of Don Draper's face looks different than the fabric on the whole suit. Is it different? Or is that just a function of the lighting?
 
Re: [YUNSIL] PROTO PICS- MadMen Don Draper H&C Set -List Closed

I know I'm late -- I've been out of town and missed this last round of discussion. This might already be being addressed, but in general I thought the suit looked a bit baggy and boxy. In particular, the shoulders seem a hair broad, the arms look much too puffy, and the mid-section seems wide.

Perhaps some of the changes being employed might address that. Again, I realize I'm a week late to the discussion and it's probably too late to adjust anything. But if the boxiness/bagginess can be addressed at all, I think it would look much better.

Also, I'm just curious: the fabric in the CU of Don Draper's face looks different than the fabric on the whole suit. Is it different? Or is that just a function of the lighting?
That's the lighting. The fabric in the Close Up is exactly the same as you see in the full prototype pics. It's the same exact suit.
 
Re: [YUNSIL] PROTO PICS- MadMen Don Draper H&C Set -List Closed

Here are the new proto pics. Overall a great improvement by Yunsil. Not as many pics as last time but you get the idea.
I think we finally have it.

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Re: [YUNSIL] PROTO PICS- MadMen Don Draper H&C Set -List Closed

I think it looks great. She got the "loosness" of the jacket in there, i think the length of the jacket/sleeves are right. Looks good to me.:clap
 
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