Re: [TORIBOX]GONY Bill the Butcher "Whoopsie Daisy" outfit(FULL PAYMENTS DUE)
Want to know something sad... Ive been messaged by numerous people now agreeing with me, all with the same response, "I would speak up too but I don't want to be on Hector's bad side."
GUYS!
This is a hobby, we all do this for fun and because we enjoy collecting these figures, this is our hard earned money, we shouldn't feel bullied when we pay a deposit, to pay the rest after a $85 price jump out of no where yet alone afraid to question certain practices with our money that don't make sense to us. And yes I was bullied because I wasn't given the refund I asked for which wasn't needed, so I was forced to pay the full amount or find someone else who would.
Remember Hector is just a guy who is contacting Yunsil to get the outfits made, he isn't the tailor, yet we trust him with our money only to face backlash if we question anything, does that seem right? There are numerous other runs happening with Yunsil and they aren't through him. He can get mad, get personal and call out my "collecting habits" all he wants but when it comes down to it he is just a middle man.
The fact of the matter is I paid $50 and so did all of you which is a decent chunk of change on a deposit which was lead to believe was required (but wasn't supposedly and was non refundable anyway?), whether Hector tries to convey he never said it was required, we all thought it was. And thats neither here nor there because when I asked for the refund back because I felt uncomfortable with how the transaction was going because of a price increase of $85 (out of no where with no indication of it happening especially when smaller runs of similar items remained at $250) I was attacked for asking these questions. Remember this deposit was not required for anything so i.e. its sitting in his paypal, easily refundable. Where is this attack coming from, why not just give me back my refund? Maybe I could understand if we were informed "Guys her prices are going up" like he claims, or "Guys this might be more intricate and cost more money" which it isn't more intricate than the Candie outfit, you would think a good project runner would tell us these things before dropping a bigger price on us.
The fact of the matter is:
1. We shouldn't feel afraid to speak up especially when its our money involved.
2. We shouldn't feel bullied into paying a price we aren't comfortable with which was revealed way after the deposit was taken and far from the norm.
3. We shouldn't have to pay a NRD (Non Refundable Deposit) if the project runner doesn't know the final price yet, that is just unethical, how in any way is that fair to the payer. What if the final price was $500? Would more people speak up then with that much of a price difference from $250? Well your $500 limit is my $335 limit.
Some people will jump to Hector's aid and thats fine, they are welcome to, not everyone has to see things my way. But I ask, if anyone agrees with me, speak up please, this is our money involved and we shouldn't feel like we have to be afraid to speak up. Its ridiculous that I have to voice these opinions when it comes to a hobby of mine, something I enjoy being a part of but now have to play "the bad guy". I have been asked to stay away from Hector's future runs and I will do that, but while I am still invested in this run I will speak my peace. If this falls on deaf ears thats fine, but as I'm allowed to my opinions, I voiced mine.
Want to know something sad... Ive been messaged by numerous people now agreeing with me, all with the same response, "I would speak up too but I don't want to be on Hector's bad side."
GUYS!
This is a hobby, we all do this for fun and because we enjoy collecting these figures, this is our hard earned money, we shouldn't feel bullied when we pay a deposit, to pay the rest after a $85 price jump out of no where yet alone afraid to question certain practices with our money that don't make sense to us. And yes I was bullied because I wasn't given the refund I asked for which wasn't needed, so I was forced to pay the full amount or find someone else who would.
Remember Hector is just a guy who is contacting Yunsil to get the outfits made, he isn't the tailor, yet we trust him with our money only to face backlash if we question anything, does that seem right? There are numerous other runs happening with Yunsil and they aren't through him. He can get mad, get personal and call out my "collecting habits" all he wants but when it comes down to it he is just a middle man.
The fact of the matter is I paid $50 and so did all of you which is a decent chunk of change on a deposit which was lead to believe was required (but wasn't supposedly and was non refundable anyway?), whether Hector tries to convey he never said it was required, we all thought it was. And thats neither here nor there because when I asked for the refund back because I felt uncomfortable with how the transaction was going because of a price increase of $85 (out of no where with no indication of it happening especially when smaller runs of similar items remained at $250) I was attacked for asking these questions. Remember this deposit was not required for anything so i.e. its sitting in his paypal, easily refundable. Where is this attack coming from, why not just give me back my refund? Maybe I could understand if we were informed "Guys her prices are going up" like he claims, or "Guys this might be more intricate and cost more money" which it isn't more intricate than the Candie outfit, you would think a good project runner would tell us these things before dropping a bigger price on us.
The fact of the matter is:
1. We shouldn't feel afraid to speak up especially when its our money involved.
2. We shouldn't feel bullied into paying a price we aren't comfortable with which was revealed way after the deposit was taken and far from the norm.
3. We shouldn't have to pay a NRD (Non Refundable Deposit) if the project runner doesn't know the final price yet, that is just unethical, how in any way is that fair to the payer. What if the final price was $500? Would more people speak up then with that much of a price difference from $250? Well your $500 limit is my $335 limit.
Some people will jump to Hector's aid and thats fine, they are welcome to, not everyone has to see things my way. But I ask, if anyone agrees with me, speak up please, this is our money involved and we shouldn't feel like we have to be afraid to speak up. Its ridiculous that I have to voice these opinions when it comes to a hobby of mine, something I enjoy being a part of but now have to play "the bad guy". I have been asked to stay away from Hector's future runs and I will do that, but while I am still invested in this run I will speak my peace. If this falls on deaf ears thats fine, but as I'm allowed to my opinions, I voiced mine.
