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Pretty much you all bought bought a recast if you ask me. The original belongs to MJ.
This is something that will continue no matter how much one complains.
Just gotta learn to deal with it.
Sadly, the price is more than affordable and the head is smaller.
Cheers!
^_^

Trust me there will be a huge difference between the cast of the original as opposed to the recast of an already casted sculpt. Most have air bubbles and lose definition. The recasters still bother me but the way I look at it is I love having the original artwork from the artist. Just like buying a printed copy of a painting or having the original. I'd rather support the artist and have a high quality cast. It's a shame cause when situations like this happens it pushes a lot of sculptors away from public releases


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It's pretty simple to justify . It's awesome I wanted it so I bought it .


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Lol we can go round and round with this like it's been done a million times. But mass produced prices will always differ from a one man show. An artist can't charge $250 for a figure he's spent months sculpting parts on and getting clothes tailored for. There's just no money in it for him/her.


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Most people don't care about artists, they only want the work and will justify taking it, just like music theft.
I think we can all agree that sculpting requires a lot of skill and time. But like xeroxing the Mona Lisa, recasting requires no skill and no time.
Artists (in theory) should be paid for their skill and time, right?

If your attitude is "well that's how it goes" and "if you don't like your art work being stolen then don't make art", surprise, you are a big part of the problem. But you likely don't care about that either, as long as you get what you want for cheap.
 
Rainman sculpts are not recasted cause he releases as many as you want every year and also at a fair price! 130 bucks a piece! I think when sculpts reach this price point of 250-500 - a massive target audience is lost by the artist! Which these ******** recasters capitalize on!

Does not justify or excuse what is right or wrong - I am only stating my pov!



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Wow I was browsing this pirate's page to only realized he's been doing this for some time and recasting almost anything that sell good


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Wow I was browsing this pirate's page to only realized he's been doing this for some time and recasting almost anything that sell good


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Don't accuse Kit of anything. He is just a seller. You'll see those heads pop up everywhere. Kit, like Headplay and others are just sellers, so yeah, they'll sell anything that sells. Kit has his own production chain, and he works with legitimate sculptors like Eleven, and he is a great guy, a reliable seller. but he is a seller, you can't hold that against him!
 
If the sculptor was doing this purely for 'arts sake', he'd have made a single piece and allowed people to look at it like in a gallery. Let's not lose sight of the fact that he was charging $250(!) for what turned out to be a beautiful, but miscaled, mass produced item. Don't kid yourself that money wasn't a driving force in this endeavour.
 
money has and will always be a driving force in these boards....I mean...those same artists ask the general population what they should sculpt or what project they think will sell...I would be more for the argument of saying its art if the particular artist makes whoever he wants to make but when you open that door to let someone or a specific group dictate what your next piece will be...part of the artist template is lost and is replaced with research and development...which is usually attached to a form of business....
 
If the sculptor was doing this purely for 'arts sake', he'd have made a single piece and allowed people to look at it like in a gallery. Let's not lose sight of the fact that he was charging $250(!) for what turned out to be a beautiful, but miscaled, mass produced item. Don't kid yourself that money wasn't a driving force in this endeavour.

Of course he did it for money, sales are what drives anything offered on this forum. $250 was the price charged. Like it or not, those people you are calling crazy for paying the price are the reason the sculpt exists on the market in the first place, for the recaster to recast and offer to people like you for $40. You're welcome.
 
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Wow. is that the actual head you're getting or is that MJ's? I doubt it will look like that when all the bootleg supporters get theirs- I wonder if MJ has seen these-this is some BS

Those are the photos hey are using to sell the recast sculpt I highly doubt it will be even close to that .


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Of course he did it for money, sales are what drives anything offered on this forum. $250 was the price charged. Like it or not, those people you are calling crazy for paying the price are the reason the sculpt exists on the market in the first place, for the recaster to recast and offer to people like you for $40. You're welcome.

Yup.

Let's take another artist for example that sells their work to make a living, could be any but let's look at Jeff Koons who makes sculpture. His work is not based off an actor or entertainment property so there's no argument there. One of his balloon dog statues, of which he's made many, sold for $54 million dollars in 2013. Does he deserve to have his hard work stolen and reproduced because the price is too high for the average collector to afford? Of course not. Should he have to make many pieces at lower price point instead of a few at a higher price just because there is market demand for his work? Of course not.
And what has happened? Of course people in China are stealing his work and making cheap, $6,000, knock offs. There will always be those scummy people out there trying to make money off of someone else's hard work, skill and ideas. Those people and those that support them are the problem. They like the work but don't give a damn about the person that made it, and in many bizarre cases have contempt for the person who made the thing they love. This manifests in them complaining about the price charged, perceived imperfections in the art product, personal attacks or just good old fashioned envy. Their own entitled desires are the only things they care about.
 
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Of course he did it for money, sales are what drives anything offered on this forum. $250 was the price charged. Like it or not, those people you are calling crazy for paying the price are the reason the sculpt exists on the market in the first place, for the recaster to recast and offer to people like you for $40. You're welcome.

Exactly! Well said Marf!


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Of course he did it for money, sales are what drives anything offered on this forum. $250 was the price charged. Like it or not, those people you are calling crazy for paying the price are the reason the sculpt exists on the market in the first place, for the recaster to recast and offer to people like you for $40. You're welcome.
Er, thanks, then.

It's not that I don't care about the artist , their endeavour or their work, I just think that charging $250 for a single head is a piss-take. That's just my opinion and my choice not to pay what I believe to be a ridiculous price.

By charging these scandalous prices, they're actually helping create the market for the re-casters to operate in.
 
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