Rainman wishlist thread

[PopCultKid]

That's right Antonio, Yunsil isn't "Rainman's tailor". She doesn't work for him and they aren't partners. They have two separate business and he contracts her the same way that people here have been doing, because that's what her business does. After years of misconceptions, people here finally figured that out. Are there some potential downsides to this discovery? Sure. But all in all, at least so far, it's provided way more good than harm to the community.

 

[PopCultKid]

No. It's not HIS tailor. At all

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

That's right Antonio, Yunsil isn't "Rainman's tailor". She doesn't work for him and they aren't partners. They have two separate business and he contracts her the same way that people here have been doing, because that's what her business does. After years of misconceptions, people here finally figured that out. Are there some potential downsides to this discovery? Sure. But all in all, at least so far, it's provided way more good than harm to the community.

So Yunsil isn't Rainmans main tailor huh? And they don't partner up when Rainman Artworks sells a figure. She just treats her 20 piece clothing commissions the same way she does with her Rainman commissions. Ok....


So does the open commission policy Yunsil have mean that there are really no limits to what clothing will be made as long as there is an order for it? I'm all for this as long as Rainman has free range get some of the same character clothing replicated that the smaller custom artist projects are getting made if he so chooses to do the same characters.

 

[PopCultKid]

.... Ok

 

[Leon 911]

1) Yunsil has a family to feed - more importantly her "seamstress/s" have families to feed. There are no contracts in this business as this is unlicensed. She can do whatever she desires to do.

2) Anyone who pays a premium for rainman figures is paying for his paint and his accessories (period) . Aeons painted sculpts (120), and yunsils pricing (in a predictable range) are always the same and these imo are not differentiators

3) So if we really want rainman to pump and produce more releases - it's rainman who has to expand his production house (yes production house - cause having so many people already engaged is never a one man show) which is not a problem for most of us!

4) Bottom line in this sort of an equation yunsil / iris etc of the world have more powers! That is the reality!

Yunsil probably makes equal if not more money in 4-5 runs of 30 each than she would make in one release of rainman per year! When someone's 50-70 % business is no controlled by you - they are not "your tailor" even if a piece of paper (hypothetically) would say so!



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[Jbeltram4]

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Can't have one without the other.


My Dark Helmet is lonely.

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

Ok.....Then we are all in agreement that if Rainman chooses to do Django characters or Rocky, or Wyatt Earp Marshall from Tombstone in the future no one will have a problem with him getting his tailor Yunsil to replicate the exact same clothing that's already been done. That's all I wanted to know because when the popular character choices start to overlap and it naturally will happen, at least everyone is in agreement that the clothing can be made over and over and over again.


With that said, Rainman needs to consider these bad boys!

(But with the main outfit of course. Coconut cup, cigarette)

 

[Leon 911]

1) people need to understand the difference between "rights" and "requests" . Rainman or anyone can do any figure even if already done. Fans can "request" to do something that's not done (but can't force anyone to do anything or not do anything)

2) i don't know where does the morals of exclusivity go when yunsil makes an error on the bill v2 coat and some of us want to immediately ask / desire for iris to take a shot at it! (Hypocrisy to the best)

hmm - whose tailor is iris (I wonder)


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[Godfather1408]

Really? What exactly did he say about Velvets Bill? Can you go into more detail about that conversion. Did he use the exact same tailor to replicate the exact same outfit? Is that what your saying he did? Because I have both Velvets and Rainmans Bill and the clothing was not made by Yunsil for both.

The Wonka clothing that you had re-released by Yunsil (with some minor differences) did that bother any of the Rainman Wonka owners whom Yunsil also tailored the clothing for? Did Rainman also approve of that?

I will find the emails and post them just to clear my point...... Rainman was annoyed at me because I didn't go to him first to discuss this issue. He used velvet morning as an example about how velvet morning did bill and he spoke to him about doing bill before going ahead with it. So really you have velvet morning to thank for the fact everyone has a rainman bill.

When I sat and spoke with him he said that the customers would have to accept this and that it was ok....... You really need to chill man. No one here is looking to argue.

 

[Jbeltram4]

Ok.....Then we are all in agreement that if Rainman chooses to do Django characters or Rocky, or Wyatt Earp Marshall from Tombstone in the future no one will have a problem with him getting his tailor Yunsil to replicate the exact same clothing that's already been done. That's all I wanted to know because when the popular character choices start to overlap and it naturally will happen, at least everyone is in agreement that the clothing can be made over and over and over again.

I wouldn't have a problem at all personally. If his sculpt were superior to the one that was produced before, I'll grab it. Or if I feel the accessories are better made, I'll grab a DX or full set and sell my other one at a price that a collector who can't afford or refuses to pay RM prices is willing to pay(most likely what I paid as I hate gouging people's wallet). At the end of the day, I think most collectors just want a great representation of the characters they love. RM is excellent and does amazing work, but others do some pretty damn great work too. BI understand you may collect specifically RM works and not other artists, and that's completely cool, but other deserve a chance at the phenomenal quality Yunsil or Iris provide as well if they aren't willing to shell for RM sculpts/paint and at the end of the day, those tailors need to eat and feed their families. More work is more money.

Obviously, these are just my $.02.

 

[Lakhota]

That's right Antonio, Yunsil isn't "Rainman's tailor". She doesn't work for him and they aren't partners. They have two separate business and he contracts her the same way that people here have been doing, because that's what her business does. After years of misconceptions, people here finally figured that out. Are there some potential downsides to this discovery? Sure. But all in all, at least so far, it's provided way more good than harm to the community.

That's the point I was trying to make , the Velvet Morning example was just that the same figure can be duplicated twice with success, I understand Yunsil didn't do that outfit. I have always looked at Yunsil and RM as different entities and just collaborate on new releases. I find it disrespectful to suggest Yunsil has to "ask" RM to make an outfit. For one he doesn't own the character , and two he is just a representation of his own company , three is there was not a word of mouth or written contract for a non compete there is no legal obligation for her not to recreate an outfit. RM is making American movie star character to whom he might not even know anything about, to assume it warrants concerns of his releases is just hypothetical and pigeon holing his repertoire.

 

[Iggyrox]

For a while I thought I was in the Overlook Caretaker thread.

 

[greatlakes6]

That hotel will make you lose your mind.anic:

As far as Yunsil being RM's seamstress, she is. She is his exclusive choice to do his projects. That doesn't mean he is exclusive to her. All semantics. If I am your best friend, it doesn't mean that you are my best friend.

 

[philmah]

I really, really want RM to take on the django line and have yunsil make the outfits "slightly different" =P

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

That's the point I was trying to make , the Velvet Morning example was just that the same figure can be duplicated twice with success, I understand Yunsil didn't do that outfit. I have always looked at Yunsil and RM as different entities and just collaborate on new releases. I find it disrespectful to suggest Yunsil has to "ask" RM to make an outfit. For one he doesn't own the character , and two he is just a representation of his own company , three is there was not a word of mouth or written contract for a non compete there is no legal obligation for her not to recreate an outfit. RM is making American movie star character to whom he might not even know anything about, to assume it warrants concerns of his releases is just hypothetical and pigeon holing his repertoire.

Some of you people are to literal and take things way out of context! :lol You make "ask" seem like she's on her knees or somthing. When I say his tailor you guys make it seem like I'm talking about someone who is slaving away in a sweatshop somewhere.

She should have to "ask" Rainman if it's ok to do a particular clothing outfit because that type of communication allows for them to plan out what they need to do for their next product. If Rainman is stuck doing a figure for 6 months, wouldn't it be in the best interests for her to talk to him about what they might have planned next?

Accepting these small average joe commissions for petty runs of popular characters clothing at one time from the same person just doesn't make sense to me. Guys like Velvet who has great integrity with how he offers his work doesn't do that. He starts a project....finishes it then moves on to the next thing. Even Rainman doesn't do that and Yunsil is his exclusive tailor. I see right through this new trend of hogging up the talents of a tailor like Yunsil. It's like a race, who can get to do the really good character first.

 

[Leon 911]

Yesterday when I went to my Nordstrom and (literally) there were 3000 other people at my Nordstrom! Can you imagine "my Nordstrom" and they were all being treated equally! Some of them where not buying any thing but how dare they enter my store! My store! Worse is I noticed that tag and Rolex both are making watches and they have round dials and the hours needle is shorter than the minutes one. Absolutely not done!!! After a lot of digging I found that the stainless steel used In "My tag" is the same steel used In a cheap tissot! My 18000 dollar watch made of same steel that a 500 dollar Tissot has! I will sue Arcelor!!!
This has to stop!!! It has to!!! Worse is that all these darn watches are showing the same time! Can we revisit all the 24 longitudinal regions to correct each time zone (from 15 to 15.23485 degrees) and stop this from happening!!!

I am appalled!!! Figuratively and literally!!!


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[turbo.VS.ozone]

In English - it translates to -you are a moron!!! sorry for going the longer route!



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Your talking about 3000 people in a Nordstroms and tissot watches in a Rainman thread and I'm the moron? :lol
Spare yourself the embarrassment guy. Go play with your kid man your spending too much time argueing with "morons" about dolls.

 

[Leon 911]

Don't worry about me it's not your problem!!! If you think you genuinely have a point - Try talking to rainman or yunsil on why she shld not do another project - probably they will slap you just like everyone else wants to







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[turbo.VS.ozone]

Oh you want to slap people now? You threatening me?

 

[Lakhota]