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FIRST PROTO EVERYONE!!

I think it looks tremendous. A nice suprise was that yunsil wasnt satisfied with the HT fat suit, so she made a new one for us! Please chime in with any suggestions. I will start collecting the balances now and we will get this moving forward!

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It's looking great and a big improvement over the sloppy HT and KO tuxes, but can I throw a few things out there that may make it that much better?

I see that her fat suit is made to go under the HT original. Does anyone else think that it may be adding a smidge too much bulk in the shoulders? The midsection looks good but with the new suit being crisper and cut tighter, it's showing off the bulk underneath more than the HT build. Can she show some pics of the current proto without her fat-suit?

Maybe it's the pics not picking it up well, but the sheen of the lapels looks a bit dull. The sheen of the real suit had more pop, so I wondering if it's just the pics or is that a good representation of how it'll look in hand.

I'm sorry boys but I have to respectively disagree about the pants. I know its tough for the bagginess to translate perfectly in 1/6, but I think that the pants could be a tiny touch wider. They should definitely be 1-2 mm longer. Right now they are a bit high with the fig standing straight up and they should be closer to the back of the heel. I'll dig for reference pics if you need, but if you have the Blu Ray, the best place to see this is the end of his daughter's wedding scene when they're dancing. The ride a little high when he's moving/walking, but sit lower when his legs are straight.

*Also it looks like the pants are missing the stripe on the side.

And maybe not make the cuffs on the shirt too tight so the can sit slighter lower on the oversized HT hands, and peek out of the jacket's sleeves a little more


Oh, and I vote for the loop like HT's to fit the rose too.
 
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One more thing :lol. MNL pointed out that the neck on the HT sculpt was thinker than others and right down to the fat suit this looks like it fitted pretty tightly to the TTM18 neck. Are the KO's the same exact size as the HT's? I'd hate to buy one but if they are, maybe we can all chip in a buck and have Yunsil get one for fitting purposes. And then make a YouTube vid of burning it

Sorry, I don't mean to drop a laundry list but these things just jumped out at me
 
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Balance sent!


It's looking great and a big improvement over the sloppy HT and KO tuxes, but can I throw a few things out there that may make it that much better?

I see that her fat suit is made to go under the HT original. Does anyone else think that it may be adding a smidge too much bulk in the shoulders? The midsection looks good but with the new suit being crisper and cut tighter, it's showing off the bulk underneath more than the HT build. Can she show some pics of the current proto without her fat-suit?

Maybe it's the pics not picking it up well, but the sheen of the lapels looks a bit dull. The sheen of the real suit had more pop, so I wondering if it's just the pics or is that a good representation of how it'll look in hand.

I'm sorry boys but I have to respectively disagree about the pants. I know its tough for the bagginess to translate perfectly in 1/6, but I think that the pants could be a tiny touch wider. They should definitely be 1-2 mm longer. Right now they are a bit high with the fig standing straight up and they should be closer to the back of the heel. I'll dig for reference pics if you need, but if you have the Blu Ray, the best place to see this is the end of his daughter's wedding scene when they're dancing. The ride a little high when he's moving/walking, but sit lower when his legs are straight.

*Also it looks like the pants are missing the stripe on the side.

And maybe not make the cuffs on the shirt too tight so the can sit slighter lower on the oversized HT hands, and peek out of the jacket's sleeves a little more


Oh, and I vote for the loop like HT's to fit the rose too.

Agree with everything.
Had these thoughts before but didn't want to be "that guy". The first thing that jumped out was the chest and shoulders being too fat. I think hot toys got the fat suit more accurate. I also think the jacket could be slightly longer. We can go into pocket placement but don't know how much you guys want to go into the details.
 
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good suggestions mike!

Im pretty sure the pants stripe is there? looks like it in the leg photo no?

I think we can compromise on the pant issue by telling her to add a mm or two, and im for sure in for making them less tapered. Im gonna reserve judgment on the sheen of the lapel till i have it in hand
 
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FIRST PROTO EVERYONE!!

I think it looks tremendous. A nice suprise was that yunsil wasnt satisfied with the HT fat suit, so she made a new one for us! Please chime in with any suggestions. I will start collecting the balances now and we will get this moving forward!

This looks good, but I'm sure some changes can improve the suit. It definitely must have a thread lacing on the lapel for the rose.

I assumed that the jacket had a vent hole because the KO had it even though I knew Tom's didn't. The KO suit was so much more inaccurate than I thought it was.
 
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good suggestions mike!

Im pretty sure the pants stripe is there? looks like it in the leg photo no?

I think we can compromise on the pant issue by telling her to add a mm or two, and im for sure in for making them less tapered. Im gonna reserve judgment on the sheen of the lapel till i have it in hand

Awesome brother, thanks for being open to suggestion. I hope that I'm pointing things out that others agree with.

I'm not sure if the stripe is on the pants. Maybe I'm buggin' out but I don't see it

I guess we'll have to wait to see how it fits the neck when you get it in hand too.

I know she's busy, but if she has time I'd love to see how it looks without her fat-suit and just using the HT original. In the proto pics, the long one that extends to the thighs is HT's and hers it the waist length one going under it, right? I haven't seen the HT one in a while (don't really feel like undressing my fig to verify but that's it IIRC) and I'm assuming that she just made that little one as a supplement to go underneath?

Agree with everything.
Had these thoughts before but didn't want to be "that guy". The first thing that jumped out was the chest and shoulders being too fat. I think hot toys got the fat suit more accurate. I also think the jacket could be slightly longer. We can go into pocket placement but don't know how much you guys want to go into the details.

Not many people want to be "that guy" so I elected myself a long time ago :lol. I don't know if I'm the big mouth that the Freaks deserve or need right now, but it's always been in efforts for a better end result that benefits all of us. I know it annoys some folks, and I know some others appreciate it.

I really wish others would speak up more though. It boggles my mind how people could sit on their hands and just PayPal over the big money that custom stuff fetches when they see doable, reasonable and feasible room for improvement. I'm not saying to make it a sour nit-pick fest, but if you see something, say something! Everyone shouldn't be scared to have high standards and expectations for their 300, 800, 1500, 2500 bucks.

Right now I'm trying to beg a certain artist to make a very necessary and very doable change to his current project, and he's completely unwilling. What blows my mind even more than that is that everyone clearly sees whats wrong but doesn't say a word and just shoots over their hefty deposits.
 
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Quick update. She said she can't add the loop because "she doesn't know where it is". Rest assured, I'll provide her detailed photos of the HT and make sure it gets done. She also warned me the pants were already 5mm wider at the cuff than my previous goldeneye suit, but I explained again the need.

Seems like she's resistant to change. Don't know if that's cause she's busy or what, but no worries guys, I'll make sure all of our concerns are addressed
 
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Personally I like the suit as it is.... the fat suit looks perfect give's the shoulders the look the hot toys version didn't have and looks accurate to the picture. Maybe see how a bigger set look but I'm sure they will look way oversized and pretty stupid.

As I mentioned it worked with Enterbay because of the odd material used but it also looked very sloppy.
We need more people to chime in.... about 30 people only about 7 spoken up :rotfl

If you look at the pictures carefully you can see the pants are already quite long.
Chill you getting the Proto in hand? Sometimes Yunsil's pics don't always do the outfits justice. :dunno
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It's gonna be impossible to make the pants drape the way the 1:1 did, but I think making them 1-2 mm longer is the right move. I know today's tux pants ride a little high like that, but it was a different cut back then. If you have the movie, watch the end of the wedding scene where he's dancing with Connie. You'll see that when he stands staright upright they sit a little lower on the shoe. That part and the one this pic is from are the 2 times you get the clearest look at the pants. Plus, if there that high on the fig while standing, they're going to really be up there while sitting.

But like you said, Yunsil is a self-admittedly bad futzer. Maybe we have to wait for Mike to get the proto and hope that she'll do revisions from there

Pants need to be a lot baggier.
Also can she extend the fat suit down to right above the knees with a more tapered fit? I can make out where the fat suit ends and that definitely won't look good sitting down.

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Quick update. She said she can't add the loop because "she doesn't know where it is". Rest assured, I'll provide her detailed photos of the HT and make sure it gets done. She also warned me the pants were already 5mm wider at the cuff than my previous goldeneye suit, but I explained again the need.

Seems like she's resistant to change. Don't know if that's cause she's busy or what, but no worries guys, I'll make sure all of our concerns are addressed


Thanks for the effort man :duff

The loop for the rose should be the easiest of all things. Between pics of the HT, the KO and screen shots she shouldn’t have a tough time figuring it out :dunno
 
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I'm going to look it over more closely tonight, but I agree with most of PopCultKid's suggestions.

I don't agree with the seriously baggy pants. A wider/straighter cut, and lowered a bit, yes. I'd have to watch the movie again, but from the looks of them I would almost say that scene was an abberation - maybe Brando's proper pants weren't available. The two shots below , along with the one Siriusty uploaded show that they are well-tailored - as you'd expect them to be for a man in his position and means.

Maybe there are other shots that show otherwise, but that look was never a "style" (except maybe for zoot suits) and certainly not for a tuxedo.




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Yes, I did notice that yesterday but couldn't think why they would use two different pants (and don't have the desire to go researching it :lol). But that one shot of the family photo is the only time they seem to be baggy like that. When he's dancing with Connie, they are a smidge longer than Yunsil's suggest, but appear more neat and fitted than the former. Really might be 2 different pants.

But don't just take it from me. Anyone who has this on disc should check it out and tell us if you see what I see. I did the work yesterday and spent an hour going through the first 20 minutes of the flick to spot where we get a good glimpse of this and that. You see the pants way too briefly when he stands up after Buonasera's pitch, Aside from that it's the family photo part and the dance that you want to skip to.
 
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sort Of decent photos from The godfather family album.

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I was thinking, all the pants in Brando's wardrobe for the film were probably all cut very similar or the same to each other with That high waisted, wide leg, baggy pant 1940s look. Obviously a different material with different details.
but possibly with the same length as all his other pants made for him for the film?

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What do you guys think about that


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Those ones in the tux are good, but are still a little confusing :lol.

I'd imaging that his other clothes wouldn't be comparable though. Even though the todays styles are different, the one thing that's the same is tuxes, suits, casual pants, etc. have different standard cuts from each other
 
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A couple other things:

• The vest/waistcost lapels should also have "satin" edges

* According to some accounts, the buttons on the shirt were diamonds with silver rims, not black, although I doubt they'd have a way to imitate this.

• Maybe it's just me, but I think the fatsuit is a bit too fat in the upper-belly area - just below the ribcage. he had a paunch for sure, but he wasn't rotund.

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A couple other things:

• The vest/waistcost lapels should also have "satin" edges

* According to some accounts, the buttons on the shirt were diamonds with silver rims, not black, although I doubt they'd have a way to imitate this.

• Maybe it's just me, but I think the fatsuit is a bit too fat in the upper-belly area - just below the ribcage. he had a paunch for sure, but he wasn't rotund.

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Yeah, i like bamfstyle too.:wink1:
 
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Definitely feel like the fat suit is a little too big as well.
 
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Maybe the remedy is as simple as just using the HT one and leaving Yunsil's off
 
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Or using yunsil's and leaving the HT off


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