[MJ12] 1:6 Heath Ledger as The Joker Headsculpt

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Re: 1:6 Heath Ledger as The Joker Painted Headsculpt WIP PIC UPDATED in 1st POST

Yes I was hoping real hair was part of the deal to .....hmmm
 
Re: 1:6 Heath Ledger as The Joker Painted Headsculpt WIP PIC UPDATED in 1st POST

I'm with Ricardobsn, I'm on board either way, but if there's a way to do both a version A for sculpted, and a version B for
those wishing to add hair, I think that would be a great alternative.

I think there are MANY of us here who would love something as close to Adam as possible.
One of the biggest thing that Adam's has about making it look lifelike is the addition of Fake hair.

First of all, this project was started so that someone can try to emulate as close to Adam's as possible.
As far as saying "let's not compare this with Adam", I think we should throw away this fairness issue,
Let's face it, this whole project is done because everyone wants something close to Adam's work.

As far as sculpted hair, it will not get you close to anywhere the realism that Adam's head produces.
Its fine if people want to resort to that if that's what they prefer,
but my personal opinion, this project is sooo close to have people have something as close to Adam's as possible
but for a lot of us, resorting to just sculpted hair is not gonna get close to the realism that Adam produces.

I can tell you from my own collection that the top 5 figure I have, most of them have hair because it brings the realism
to another level.

Here's Adam's latest, as great as this sculpt is, I dont think this would benefit from looking as real as possible if it had
sculpted hair.

 
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Re: 1:6 Heath Ledger as The Joker Painted Headsculpt WIP PIC UPDATED in 1st POST

this is 1/4 scale remy :)

Oh yeah, I'm aware that its his 1/4 Neo.
But it has nothing to do with scale, whether its 1/4 or 1/6, one of the reasons Adam's look lifelike is the
addition of hair.

Picture that 1/4 with sculpted hair and it wont look as lifelife as it does now.
 
Re: 1:6 Heath Ledger as The Joker Painted Headsculpt WIP PIC UPDATED in 1st POST

This is the first time Adam is attempting complete real hair BTW. All his previous sculpts till date in 1:6 has been the mixed media approach. Majority sculpted with fine threads to create the illusion of real hair.
 
Re: 1:6 Heath Ledger as The Joker Painted Headsculpt WIP PIC UPDATED in 1st POST

This is the first time Adam is attempting complete real hair BTW. All his previous sculpts till date in 1:6 has been the mixed media approach. Majority sculpted with fine threads to create the illusion of real hair.

I don't think he's adding hair to the Wayne sculpt. He mentioned he's making a replacement cowl for the HT 1/4 and is building the cowl around the sculpt to make it as accurate as possible. Something HT should've done.
 
Re: 1:6 Heath Ledger as The Joker Painted Headsculpt WIP PIC UPDATED in 1st POST

This is the first time Adam is attempting complete real hair BTW. All his previous sculpts till date in 1:6 has been the mixed media approach. Majority sculpted with fine threads to create the illusion of real hair.

I agree, a mixed media version is actually what I'm proposing.
My posting the 1/4 scale above has nothing to do with complete hair or mixed media.
All I'm saying is picture that sculpt...dont worry if its 1/4...just picture that sculpt above in sculpted hair and it wont be as realistic as it looks.

Okay, if you want to go back to a 1/6 example, here's Adam's 1/6...picture this in full sculpted hair and do you think this will still look as real as it?

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Re: 1:6 Heath Ledger as The Joker Painted Headsculpt WIP PIC UPDATED in 1st POST

I agree, a mixed media version is actually what I'm proposing.
My posting the 1/4 scale above has nothing to do with complete hair or mixed media.
All I'm saying is picture that sculpt...dont worry if its 1/4...just picture that sculpt above in sculpted hair and it wont be as realistic as it looks.

Okay, if you want to go back to a 1/6 example, here's Adam's 1/6...picture this in full sculpted hair and do you think this will still look as real as it?
With all respect to that application let me show you a clear pic of his latest 1:6 sculpt. This is courtesy 'Hiesenberg' from this forum who recently sold it. The pictures will show you the extent of hair he adds to the sculpt. (Also in small there are pictures of one of his original Joker sculpts unpainted and unhaired sent to Kato for tailoring his now legendary clothing)

Which will show you that if you want to do it that much, you can get any decent customiser to add it without any hassle over this sculpted hair sculpt itself.

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As you can see the hair strands added are not numerous and also very superficial in nature. However when it comes to do this in large quantities in a deadline, it is quite a not economically feasible prospect.

The artist is responsible to all the customers not only for the product but also for its time space.
Honestly hairing the sculpt even in the superficial manner Adam does to his is not an ideal production step for a long extended run. And I personally am pushing for the edition size to be made higher because I hope to be able to get this sculpt to everyone who wants one.
 
Re: 1:6 Heath Ledger as The Joker Painted Headsculpt WIP PIC UPDATED in 1st POST

The hair can be added later, it isnt a problem. I think the sculpt is good, but I see what Steven is talking about. It reminds a little of the BRJ sculpt. I tried to find a pic of it unpainted but couldn't find one.
 
Re: 1:6 Heath Ledger as The Joker Painted Headsculpt WIP PIC UPDATED in 1st POST

With all respect to that application let me show you a clear pic of his latest 1:6 sculpt. This is courtesy 'Hiesenberg' from this forum who recently sold it. The pictures will show you the extent of hair he adds to the sculpt. (Also in small there are pictures of one of his original Joker sculpts unpainted and unhaired sent to Kato for tailoring his now legendary clothing)

Which will show you that if you want to do it that much, you can get any decent customiser to add it without any hassle over this sculpted hair sculpt itself.

vhg3km.jpg


As you can see the hair strands added are not numerous and also very superficial in nature. However when it comes to do this in large quantities in a deadline, it is quite a not economically feasible prospect.

The artist is responsible to all the customers not only for the product but also for its time space.
Honestly hairing the sculpt even in the superficial manner Adam does to his is not an ideal production step for a long extended run. And I personally am pushing for the edition size to be made higher because I hope to be able to get this sculpt to everyone who wants one.

Thank you for clarifying this.
As long as there's room for this hair mod, then I'm happy with it.
My initial worries was that the Scupted hair may be "too full" that adding fake hair
would give make it look like it has too much hair. Like it has big hair.

But if the sculpted hair can be made to look like this, then I'm good. :1-1:
 
Re: 1:6 Heath Ledger as The Joker Painted Headsculpt WIP PIC UPDATED in 1st POST

What I think everyone will agree is the sculpt would look a lot better with a mix of real and sculpted,now if you want to add some real hair which most of us do we are not gonna be able to with the sculpt as is.it has to be sculpted a certain way to have it look right.with the pics we got I don't see it being possible to add real hair,sure you can just glue it on top but it's gonna look strange.shouldnt there be some kind of vote?also if I'm remembering correctly this project was started to get a joker head as good as Adams,Why not use his for reference?his are perfect.to me this looks like the dx11 without the smirk,I think it should look similar to Adams,not because we want to copy his sculpt but cause he sculpted it correctly.he got everything right,so realistically if it doesn't look like Adams it's not right.to me there is a lot that needs to be fixed before it can be considered on the same high end scale as Adams.
 
Re: 1:6 Heath Ledger as The Joker Painted Headsculpt WIP PIC UPDATED in 1st POST

it doesn't look like the br sculpt at all :lol
Don't compare it with pic of the br sculpt unpainted! it kill everything that hot toys has done already!
Don't forget that it just the first wip
axe> Can't you tell me if the sculptor will paint the sculpt himself? :)
 
Re: 1:6 Heath Ledger as The Joker Painted Headsculpt WIP PIC UPDATED in 1st POST

What I think everyone will agree is the sculpt would look a lot better with a mix of real and sculpted,now if you want to add some real hair which most of us do we are not gonna be able to with the sculpt as is.it has to be sculpted a certain way to have it look right.with the pics we got I don't see it being possible to add real hair,sure you can just glue it on top but it's gonna look strange.shouldnt there be some kind of vote?also if I'm remembering correctly this project was started to get a joker head as good as Adams,Why not use his for reference?his are perfect.to me this looks like the dx11 without the smirk,I think it should look similar to Adams,not because we want to copy his sculpt but cause he sculpted it correctly.he got everything right,so realistically if it doesn't look like Adams it's not right.to me there is a lot that needs to be fixed before it can be considered on the same high end scale as Adams.

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Re: 1:6 Heath Ledger as The Joker Painted Headsculpt WIP PIC UPDATED in 1st POST

I think this looks great. Fantastic start.
 
Re: 1:6 Heath Ledger as The Joker Painted Headsculpt WIP PIC UPDATED in 1st POST

it doesn't look like the br sculpt at all :lol
Don't compare it with pic of the br sculpt unpainted! it kill everything that hot toys has done already!
Don't forget that it just the first wip
axe> Can't you tell me if the sculptor will paint the sculpt himself? :)
Probably, thats the plan till date.
 
Re: 1:6 Heath Ledger as The Joker Painted Headsculpt WIP PIC UPDATED in 1st POST

Very impressive! In the unending sea of Ledger Jokers it's nice to see one that really is a marked improvement over the rest of the pack :rock
 
Re: 1:6 Heath Ledger as The Joker Painted Headsculpt WIP PIC UPDATED in 1st POST

To me there it looks closer to this when it should be closer to the pic of Adams I posted earlier.
 
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