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Now, to reply to BCS, yes, it sold well, yes, it's a great figure, and yes, I have a numbered, signed, pair. Do I love them? Yes I do! Are they up to today's standards? I don't think so. The clothes are top notch contrary to what people seem to say, and so are the sculpts, but you guys are still very far behind in terms of paint jobs, even though it looks miles better than all the pics I've seen show. Still, you guys still have a lot of work in that department. And I disagree about the neck. Yours is too short. I'm not bashing this fig, I love it, but what's wrong in having other options? Especially since it is a custom figure, so obviously a very limited run. Besides, I'm pretty sure that a lot of those who'd buy it also have yours
 
The Sherlock sold well because there was no other option available, I too was going to buy it, but the moment I saw the proto and what happened to Trevor's sculpt I held off. And in all honesty after seeing how much better this second offering was Im glad I didnt break down in my fandom.

Id rather wait a year from now and collect different clothing and sculpt options from the talented custom artists on board than get the BCS figures which I was looking forward to since it was announced.
 
Now, Axe, have you see it in hand? I'm asking because it totally makes a difference. As for it selling well, even with Iminime, I think it would have. For several reasons. First, we're not looking at the same price point. Then, there's no Watson, which, to my mind is a real handicap. Still, there was room for the two options in my mind. I have several Supes, Batman or Spidey... Each one is special to me and I've never regretted getting several versions. I'm even still proud of the earliest SST in my collection!
 
I have, my friend bought it... problem is the finishing. The coat in my opinion is not as fine as it should be. Its a premium coat, and this one looks like a dust magnet to be honest. The raw sculpts could have been great, but look at the painting! For the price and the fact that they are a fledging company I can still cut some slack... I cant expect them to give paintjobs like EB or HT, but I can atleast expect ZCWO. ZCWO is miles ahead of BCS in terms of paint apps.

Trust me I need to save money, every $ is precious for me. And I love Sherlock. However inspite of that Im willing to pay double almost of one BCS figure simply because it oozes a LOT more quality. The BCS is great for things like the backdrop and all accessories. But the figure itself is very very awkward.
 
Well I have heard it all now lol. My god it only sold because it was the only opinion. Well thats true about everything then. Hot toys figures of avengers only sold because you could only way of getting them. If people don't like it like the so called 8 people who a *****ing and moaning about not being able to buy a so called custom figure which is not a custom figure as he was going to do a production run. Also if so many people wouldn't buy the figure because they didn't like it? Would they reorder and make more from the factory? Of course not. Come on guys its getting stupid now. Look at facts not fiction. Don't think you know how these things are made just because you collect them. A true custom figure is nothing more than prototype thats why you pay the big money for them. At the end of the day there is 20 out there, makes it more limited for you guys. So stop crying over a bloody figure. Its not life and death.
Also am I right in saying someone here actually did the certificate for this Denny's Figure? Didn't he allow you to buy a figure anyway? Or were you trying to get it for free????
 
I did the certificate.

I knew the intent was to make it a FamCon exclusive of 20 - which would be impossible for me to get as I live in a different country alltogether.

Unlike many would choose to imagine (probably cause looking for freebies and favours are deep rooted in their culture/psyche) I dont ask for favours or freebies even in the projects I have been involved with in the past.

So yes, I didnt get to buy it in advance nor did I violate that 20 limit by requesting one extra exclusive be made or sold to me.

I may not be rich, but Im no freeloader...
 
Im sure if you were willing to pay though he would have made you one at least? Thats a bit of a shame.

I did the certificate.

I knew the intent was to make it a FamCon exclusive of 20 - which would be impossible for me to get as I live in a different country alltogether.

Unlike many would choose to imagine (probably cause looking for freebies and favours are deep rooted in their culture/psyche) I dont ask for favours or freebies even in the projects I have been involved with in the past.

So yes, I didnt get to buy it in advance nor did I violate that 20 limit by requesting one extra exclusive be made or sold to me.

I may not be rich, but Im no freeloader...
 
I would and Im still ready to pay, but again that would be insulting his integrity over what was essentially produced for FamCon goers... and I did research on more than just the certificate. You Greggo Im sure are not unaware of how obsessed I am with Sherlock. :lol
 
I do know how obsessed you are about it you have told me before lol

I would and Im still ready to pay, but again that would be insulting his integrity over what was essentially produced for FamCon goers... and I did research on more than just the certificate. You Greggo Im sure are not unaware of how obsessed I am with Sherlock. :lol
 
For someone who watches Sherlock I thought you may understand very basic information that has already been explianed by myself.

It don't matter what has been done before etc. Any company with a license who pays fees etc have the right to put a stop to other unlicensed product. They are not only stealing sales from BCS but they are stealing money from the production company, those are the people who make the programme by the way. (I thought I would explian that to you as well because you haven't understood basic information) BCS are licensed officially by them and not the BBC and they pay them a royalises and fees. So that money that goes to make your so called precious show.

So I ask again, why is this the single solitary time that this argument has been used on this board?
If this is a new board policy, why aren't the literally hundreds of other projects with similar license infringements being shut down?

Also you mentioned Trevor grove Breaking Bad, Dexter and Firefly 3 licenses that no one had the license for. But once he sculpted it and made casts of the sculpt he got a C and D Order for them. Now that QMX have the license for Firefly would it be wrong for Trevor to make them? Of course it would. Because someone has the license and someone else pays for it.

Or is your argument that this project is being shut down specifically because the licenser has taken issue and publicly issued a C+D? That would be reasonable enough, if it were also something that also wasn't rampant here.

In the issue you mentioned of Trevor being issued a C+D, he simply ignored it at many member's requests and sold the sculpts more privately. Including to some people in this very thread.

WGP was also issued a C+D about their Walking Dead sculpts. They just named the sculpts something slightly more generic (i.e. Small Town Sheriff) and went right back to selling them, essentially ignoring the C+D and those precious production companies you are talking about.


If you want to take a position on this it's fine, I just don't get why that position is insanely inconsistent considering it could be applied to any custom figure being sold on this site. Im not against licenser's rights, just hypocrisy.

As for our "sub-standard" product we would point out that we have sold well in excess of over 1000 pieces of Sherlock direct and a further 500 pieces to retail with more are on back order. As of right now we have not received a single piece returned due to a customer being unhappy with the quality of the piece.
To be fair, a lot of people didn't have to buy the figure to see it's problems in pictures. Its the very reason that despite being a huge fan of the show, I choose not to purchase it. If anything pictures usually make figures look worse. The reason im so vocal about it is because I happily own the 10th Doctor figure so I know for a fact you are capable of more.

McDonalds also has 1 Billion served. That is no more a statement to the quality of their food as 1000 is to the quality of your figure. However if you are so confident in this matter; then why not let the customer decide?
 
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This situation is unique, in that their seems to be mutual respect from both parties. BCS did Denny a solid, & let him sell his 20 figures. I don't think I've heard of such a thing since I've been collecting higher end 1/6 figures. I'm guessing in return, & because they seem to be on friendly terms, Denny won't go behind BCS's back & extend the run. That's pretty much it from what I've read.

I don't think pointing fingers at other non licensed items is going to get the run extended, so why bother?
 
You are clearly an idiot who doesn't understand anything sadly. Trevor and WGP do not make a full run of custom figures. I worked with WGP on the penguin project guess what it got shut down after 10 were made. Trevor got shut down after the heads were already made and cast as I said and you once again have missed what I said. He sold them underground because he had them already cast. He may as well make money on it. He has them lying around. Guess what Denny can understand it. He's not making no more? Why because he knows it's wrong. BCS gave him permission to do the 20 that's it. Tbh they shouldn't have even done that. But stop you crying you can't get it now tough luck.


So I ask again, why is this the single solitary time that this argument has been used on this board?
If this is a new board policy, why aren't the literally hundreds of other projects with similar license infringements being shut down?



Or is your argument that this project is being shut down specifically because the licenser has taken issue and publicly issued a C+D? That would be reasonable enough, if it were also something that also wasn't rampant here.

In the issue you mentioned of Trevor being issued a C+D, he simply ignored it at many member's requests and sold the sculpts more privately. Including to some people in this very thread.

WGP was also issued a C+D about their Walking Dead sculpts. They just named the sculpts something slightly more generic (i.e. Small Town Sheriff) and went right back to selling them, essentially ignoring the C+D and those precious production companies you are talking about.


If you want to take a position on this it's fine, I just don't get why that position is insanely inconsistent considering it could be applied to any custom figure being sold on this site. Im not against licenser's rights, just hypocrisy.


To be fair, a lot of people didn't have to buy the figure to see it's problems in pictures. Its the very reason that despite being a huge fan of the show, I choose not to purchase it. If anything pictures usually make figures look worse. The reason im so vocal about it is because I happily own the 10th Doctor figure so I know for a fact you are capable of more.

McDonalds also has 1 Billion served. That is no more a statement to the quality of their food as 1000 is to the quality of your figure. However if you are so confident in this matter; then why not let the customer decide?
 
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Are the personal insults really necessary, Greggo? As for the figures, if the major issues with the BCS figures are paint and tailoring, would the company be against someone (not Denny, exactly) making clothing sets. As for the paint, there are plenty of talented individuals who could repaint it, could they not? I doubt you'll see more of the IMINIME figures, but I'm sure there are compromises that both parties can accept, are there not?
 
It's probably not going to be too long before the Iminime head is recast and sold painted on ebay anyway.
So I shouldn't sweat it.
 
Permission for clothing set upgrades? That's crazy talk :lol
 
You hit the nail on the head. :)

This situation is unique, in that their seems to be mutual respect from both parties. BCS did Denny a solid, & let him sell his 20 figures. I don't think I've heard of such a thing since I've been collecting higher end 1/6 figures. I'm guessing in return, & because they seem to be on friendly terms, Denny won't go behind BCS's back & extend the run. That's pretty much it from what I've read.

I don't think pointing fingers at other non licensed items is going to get the run extended, so why bother?
 
Permission for clothing set upgrades? That's crazy talk :lol

I don't see the harm in it, personally. You'd need to buy the BCS figure to have something to upgrade, anyway. I'm not knocking BCS' quality, I'm unfamiliar with it, and I'd prefer not to judge it, but if some people aren't happy with it, why should it be any different than another customizer offering capes or Joker suits or what have you?
 
We have stated our position quite clearly and politely. We had the decency to allow Denny to continue with his short run as we value him as a friend and appreciate his work.

That said make no mistake that what was sold, like so many other custom runs offered both here and on other forums, was illegal. No matter how anyone here wants to view the situation, producing unlicensed merchandise that is being sold to make a profit, no matter how small, is illegal. Most of the time runs for alternate costume parts, or portraits are overlooked, and in our opinion that is a good thing, as it encourages fans with passion to be creative and serves to help further the brand and people’s awareness. However, this run was for a full figure, not component parts and we cannot simply sit back and allow this to happen. We know for a fact that Denny has received similar requests to cease and desist from other manufacturers too, so we are not alone here.

As for allowing customers to make their own choice, that would be fine if we were offering both our own licensed figure and Denny's. It would then be the customers prerogative to make his or her mind up. What ShadowX81 is suggesting is frankly just plain dumb. We should agree to an extension to the run to enable people to make their own mind up as to whether they purchase our fully licensed figure, for which we pay for the right to produce. Or Iminime’s unlicensed figure, for which the licensor receives no payment and which may, or may not be made by workers in a factory with unsafe working conditions. Good call that.

We do not appreciate the debate being continued, especially when we have remained polite and friendly towards Denny. We have no desire to take this further and certainly do not want to have to involve the legal team of the production company. We would prefer to put an end to this here and now and so we request that the mods close this thread down.

Thanks
BCS
 
I don't see the harm in it, personally. You'd need to buy the BCS figure to have something to upgrade, anyway. I'm not knocking BCS' quality, I'm unfamiliar with it, and I'd prefer not to judge it, but if some people aren't happy with it, why should it be any different than another customizer offering capes or Joker suits or what have you?
It's not the offering of clothing upgrades, but the getting permission part. I understand stopping unlicensed full figure releases, but asking permission when somebody wants to offer a custom jacket, accurate patterned shirt, correct colour shoes ..... etc, every single time? That's the crazy part :lol

Even BCS don't seem to mind things like that, reading the post above mine. Seriously, BCS need a high five for even letting things slide, & not flexing their legal muscles :hi5:
 
Well, in that regard, I don't see an issue, then. The BCS sculpts look pretty good, and, if people don't think the paintjob is where it should be, even if you got one of the best in the business to repaint it, it'd still probably cost less than what scalpers will charge on eBay for the IMINIME. As for clothing, well, BCS stated that pretty clearly in their last post, so, I don't see what's so bad about trying other venues that aren't IMINIME to get your fix.
 
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