[MASTERWORKS] - The Master of Deduction 'Curly Fu' *SCULPT REVEALED*

[Rdeezy]

Gee Whiz makes great coats. All that is needed is the overcoat and scarf for the clothing.

 

[axecutioner18]

........and then just imagine how pi**ed off you would be if you had acquired the license for this collectible for then somebody else to come along and bootleg it essentially. A typical entitleist perspective on this matter, Axe. If you can't understand and sympathise with the stance BCS are taking on this, then shame on you.

If you love the character so much, and want to support the artists. . . then buy the official licensed merch that supports the people that created the show, character, series, etc.

You misunderstand me, I said I expected this as I knew BCS would obviously not allow any more production. They are on the right and Im not upset in the least with them for not allowing the custom. What I am upset is the quality of their release to be honest. I was one of the first guys to stand in line, and also wish someone made collectibles for the series. When BCS got the license and I saw Trevor's sculpts were being used I was thrilled.

When the product ended up looking like Barbie Doll finishing, which would look in complete contrast to the rest of my 1:6 figures, thats when I had to turn again to the custom option. I love the character and show, but I also believe the licensed merch isnt upto my expectations.

 

[SwedishHeat]

You misunderstand me, I said I expected this as I knew BCS would obviously not allow any more production. They are on the right and Im not upset in the least with them for not allowing the custom. What I am upset is the quality of their release to be honest. I was one of the first guys to stand in line, and also wish someone made collectibles for the series. When BCS got the license and I saw Trevor's sculpts were being used I was thrilled.

When the product ended up looking like Barbie Doll finishing, which would look in complete contrast to the rest of my 1:6 figures, thats when I had to turn again to the custom option. I love the character and show, but I also believe the licensed merch isnt upto my expectations.

In fairness, your expectation is irrelevant. You speak loudly against recasters and those that support them, in spite of the artists that create the work. Those folks say "I don't need the $300 headsculpt, I'm fine with the $30 version". Now, your argument is "I don't want that $200 version, I want the $450 version". It's the same argument, just inverted. None of you are supporting the artists. The licensing money, the reason licensed figures are expensive, is because it goes to the guys that created the show/character, Moffat, BBC, Cumberbatch, etc. When you buy unlicensed custom figures, none of that money goes to support the people that made that character who it is. If you love the character and want to see more, then buy the official licensed merch. It's more of a situation with ethics and morals, rather than your expectations.

I encourage you to support the artists. Buy the BCS figure and have someone customize it to your expectations.

 

[dragonsleeper]

BCS sucks lol

 

[DKA8976]

I understand not allowing Denny to re-release the full figure or head, but I don't see the problem with the coat. The only reasons you get it is for a random 1/6 bash or to put together a Sherlock, which currently has only one head available: the BCS one. It's also not like it is Thor's hammer or another recognizable, trademarked item - it is just a coat.

 

[ShadowX81]

In fairness, your expectation is irrelevant. You speak loudly against recasters and those that support them, in spite of the artists that create the work. Those folks say "I don't need the $300 headsculpt, I'm fine with the $30 version". Now, your argument is "I don't want that $200 version, I want the $450 version". It's the same argument, just inverted. None of you are supporting the artists. The licensing money, the reason licensed figures are expensive, is because it goes to the guys that created the show/character, Moffat, BBC, Cumberbatch, etc. When you buy unlicensed custom figures, none of that money goes to support the people that made that character who it is. If you love the character and want to see more, then buy the official licensed merch. It's more of a situation with ethics and morals, rather than your expectations.

I encourage you to support the artists. Buy the BCS figure and have someone customize it to your expectations.

It's completely different. Recasting is directly making a copy of (stealing) another artist's work for profit.

This is a completely individual artistic interpretation from scratch.

Screw BCS. If they make a head that isn't up to the quality we expect, why should every fan have to suffer because of it? This is no different than all the custom Joker or Indy heads/clothing out there. And no one cares about Hot Toys' feelings there. If BCS doesn't like it; maybe they should have made a better figure.

 

[Commtech]

You misunderstand me, I said I expected this as I knew BCS would obviously not allow any more production. They are on the right and Im not upset in the least with them for not allowing the custom. What I am upset is the quality of their release to be honest. I was one of the first guys to stand in line, and also wish someone made collectibles for the series. When BCS got the license and I saw Trevor's sculpts were being used I was thrilled.

When the product ended up looking like Barbie Doll finishing, which would look in complete contrast to the rest of my 1:6 figures, thats when I had to turn again to the custom option. I love the character and show, but I also believe the licensed merch isnt upto my expectations.

Well, over at the BCS Sherlock thread in the General section, many praise the BCS figure and even say it's better than iminime's. :dunno

 

[axecutioner18]

In fairness, your expectation is irrelevant. You speak loudly against recasters and those that support them, in spite of the artists that create the work. Those folks say "I don't need the $300 headsculpt, I'm fine with the $30 version". Now, your argument is "I don't want that $200 version, I want the $450 version". It's the same argument, just inverted. None of you are supporting the artists. The licensing money, the reason licensed figures are expensive, is because it goes to the guys that created the show/character, Moffat, BBC, Cumberbatch, etc. When you buy unlicensed custom figures, none of that money goes to support the people that made that character who it is. If you love the character and want to see more, then buy the official licensed merch. It's more of a situation with ethics and morals, rather than your expectations.

I encourage you to support the artists. Buy the BCS figure and have someone customize it to your expectations.

I prefer quality. I want to see Sherlock when I see the figure I want. I want to see justice to the Trevor sculpt. I want to see a Sherlock which if I place beside my other Hot Toy figures wont look like a knock off 1:6 figure, even though it maybe official merchandise.

BCS in that way fails in those expectations of mine... Yes they are a new company. But my money is precious too and so is my collecting habit. Like I said they had all the right ingredients, the license, the Trevor sculpts... and then they pull out this:

As for your issue for licensing you Know Masterworks have said they are willing to pay fees to BCS for whatever is needed if they will allow the sale of these figures. So they are asking for permission too. Now if BCS dont want to thats their call.

Well, over at the BCS Sherlock thread in the General section, many praise the BCS figure and even say it's better than iminime's. :dunno

Ofcourse they will. They paid good money for it :lol I mean look at the picture of the paint on the sculpt, the eyes! The coat is like a hairball?!!

 

[karamazov80]

Well, over at the BCS Sherlock thread in the General section, many praise the BCS figure and even say it's better than iminime's. :dunno

Sounds like Ed is up for a trade!

 

[ShadowX81]

Why do we even need to ask permission when the "Interest threads" section of this forum is filled with people selling upgrades and alternatives to officially licensed figures?

This is the first time in the many years ive been here that ive ever once seen anyone sympathetic to licenser's rights.

 

[axecutioner18]

Maybe because the licensor actively posts here and some members/custom artists well known are now associated with them. Companies like HT and EB dont care about this forum as they know that their licenses and quality and products are at a level good enough to keep warranting good sales worldwide irrespective of what is offered as a custom and what is not...

 

[meth head]

It's completely different. Recasting is directly making a copy of (stealing) another artist's work for profit.

This is a completely individual artistic interpretation from scratch.

Screw BCS. If they make a head that isn't up to the quality we expect, why should every fan have to suffer because of it? This is no different than all the custom Joker or Indy heads/clothing out there. And no one cares about Hot Toys' feelings there. If BCS doesn't like it; maybe they should have made a better figure.

Note to self, don't p*ss on Shadow if he is on fire!

 

[Commtech]

Sounds like Ed is up for a trade!

:lol I'll even thow in a couple of hundreds!

 

[Greggo]

In fairness this is not an individual artistic interpretation from scratch. First of all it's made by a number of people not just Denny. Secondly he has not paid for the license to make these figures. Do you have any idea how much a license costs? No you don't. Then they have to be license fees plus royalties on each one sold. Not to meantion the fact which BCS mentioned they have to be audited to make a figure. It's not a one off he's made 20 and then wants to make more. That is making them a production run.

Now let's work on something here Denny now has licenses under his belt official licenses which he has to pay fees and royalties. So let's say some on does what Denny is doing to other companies and they make a custom figure of it and does a run. Would that be wrong of course it would be wrong. He would do everything in his power to stop it and why shouldn't he? He pays the money to make these products just like BCS have.

He's lucky he didn't get a Cease and desist order tbh. They have been more than generous on this account. If it was a custom figure then there wouldn't be a problem this is a product run at the end of the day not a one off.

It's completely different. Recasting is directly making a copy of (stealing) another artist's work for profit.

This is a completely individual artistic interpretation from scratch.

Screw BCS. If they make a head that isn't up to the quality we expect, why should every fan have to suffer because of it? This is no different than all the custom Joker or Indy heads/clothing out there. And no one cares about Hot Toys' feelings there. If BCS doesn't like it; maybe they should have made a better figure.

 

[Wake]

For the record Denny has abided by all requests. He's not the one arguing here.

 

[Greggo]

For the record Denny has abided by all requests. He's not the one arguing here.

I know he isn't that's a good thing about Denny he does understand and does listen unlike some people on this thread not having a dig at you either Wake

 

[sdabbs]

Why do we even need to ask permission when the "Interest threads" section of this forum is filled with people selling upgrades and alternatives to officially licensed figures?

This is the first time in the many years ive been here that ive ever once seen anyone sympathetic to licenser's rights.

I'm curious - if this was an upgrade to the originally purchased BC figure (like a better head) then would this be acceptable?if it was released later rather than earlier would that be more acceptable?

ed - I'm in no way having a dig, just wondering about licencing etiquette

 

[chubbyman]

so Yunsil coat + scarf, anyone still interested?

 

[bates82]

I'm curious - if this was an upgrade to the originally purchased BC figure (like a better head) then would this be acceptable?if it was released later rather than earlier would that be more acceptable?

ed - I'm in no way having a dig, just wondering about licencing etiquette

Just curious if the coat would affected by licensing issues?

 

[Ebeneezer Jones]

so Yunsil coat + scarf, anyone still interested?

Put me down.