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I think his name is Go Lo
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That's it!
Here is a link to his page below. He is working on other things now.
https://www.facebook.com/hauoong?fref=ts
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Okay, this is incredible. And I thought the DX11 sculpt was great... it can't compare to this.
To save me from going through 165 pages... is this still available for purchase? And if so, is a painted sculpt available as well?
Darklord Dave
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Well, everybody can't be a good person, I certainly am not as I buy recasts!
Truth is artists are now asking so much that sometime, if you want something, you don't have much choice left! It's sometimes the only way to make a character you want!
Making limited run and extremely expensive stuff is something I'll never understand. You guys would sell so much more if it were affordable in the first place. Somehow, people turn to recasters because that's the only way they can afford it.
Now I understand your point. You're making art and Art is expensive. But do you seriously think it's art? For me, it's always been a toy hobby, and nothing else? I also understand that other people may think that way too.
God knows I've spend my share on figs, custom and otherwise, genuine and recast, sometimes both as I usually buy multiple for customs, but tha prices have soared so much that it's become hard to keep up for most of us. When HT started, some of their figs sold for about $100. Now you're lucky is the price is $250.
And sculptors are going the same way. There used to be a time when you could get a hs for $50. Now people are asking $300.
I'm truly sorry for those who got ripped there, honestly, but with this hobby becoming a luxury activity, sadly this is bound to happen.
What you're saying is the same as someone saying "that Ferrari is WAY too expensive. I want it and I shouldn't pay more than $500 for it, therefore it's okay for me to buy it from a thief."
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Definitely.
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Oh you can expect be contacted real soon
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Seems like that guy's PM box will exceed the capacity soon, unless he upgrades to Premium Freak.
cokebabies
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Yeah, I don't post a ton in the customs section, because except in the rare instance, I find them largely overpriced. But that post was simply awful.
And we all know this logic is prevalent, hence the steady customer base for recasters. It's just weird to actually have someone try to rationalize it in a post.
**16k**
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Why not?
And yes, I stand by what I said!
I think that most custom stuff is way overpriced. I buy them, as well as some knock offs, but I can tell you that every time in pay for a Ht or expensive custom, I say to myself "what a stupid idiot I am to get so easily swindled"!
But, hey, I'm not trying to pick up a fight with anyone! What I was just trying to say in the end is that this niche has become a niche for wealthy people and I think it's just sad. It's no longer a hobby of amateurs like it should be. It's become a way for many to do business. And I hate that! This should be a hobby where we help each other getting the best possible figure, not extort as much money from a gullible crowd.
As I said in another thread, look at the prices offered by Trevor! And don't you guys dare tell me he isn't the Ferrari of Ferraris! If I had only a fraction of his talent, I would flood the market with custom heads for $30 (the price I sell mine for, worldwide shipping included), just to show that, no, it's not worth what people sell them for and it's a hobby for me, not a way to make money from fellow collectors!
So am I awful for thinking that? If so, then I'm proud to be!
I won't talk anymore and reply about it, because as I said, not trying to fight or Chang people's mind. They won't and I won't. It's to late for that! The business gangrene has permeated this milieu too far and is here to stay. I'll play by these rules, and by the recasters too, whatever suits me best!
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axecutioner18
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Tell me when was the last time you were offered anything by Trevor directly in the boards for $30? And there is a BIG BIG difference in the cast quality... from material used to casting technique.
Your paying for somebody's time and talent... And not just somebody, these people are artists who deserve to be paid for their work. It is all relative I suppose, and what you value something dollar wise is upto you. But you shouldn't put Your pricing on another's work. If you think you work and time is only worth $30, then that's what You charge...
I think I've already said it before early on, but personally i would only go for the original, and there are enough people in the custom section who do this also.
However, if i were an artist who sculpted, and please remember i'm only saying what i might seriously consider if it were me, is going to the factories who produce the knock off sculpts and paint them. I'd approach those places and send my sculpts to them for casting and painting and sell them myself.
At the same time i would offer a limited run of superior casts with the top notch paint, like we see already and offer those at the higher price.
If it were me, i would definitely look into offering both. I don't know if this has been considered or even if it's something that could be done, but i would seriously look at it.
However, if i were an artist who sculpted, and please remember i'm only saying what i might seriously consider if it were me, is going to the factories who produce the knock off sculpts and paint them. I'd approach those places and send my sculpts to them for casting and painting and sell them myself.
At the same time i would offer a limited run of superior casts with the top notch paint, like we see already and offer those at the higher price.
If it were me, i would definitely look into offering both. I don't know if this has been considered or even if it's something that could be done, but i would seriously look at it.
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Last one I got from him was Dexter, and it was about $40 if I remember right... On of the best casting I've ever seen....
In fact, the big difference is I never do it for the money. I'll never even take commissions. I'm not even good enough for that! The way I see this hobby is I want a character. It doesn't exist...yet. So I'll make one for me and then offer it to whoever wants it. I won't sculpt a head becaus I know it'll have potential selling value. I'm not interested in that! Just the character!
And I've done things for free too. Do some paint jobs for fellow freaks I considered as friend or send free heads because I felt I was late in my work and wanted to prove I'm an honest guy. So yes, the artists(if such a thing even exists for toys) can ask money for his work, but to me, he's not a true 1/6 passionate, just a seller who's found ready to pay anything for his stuff ( and see, I'm one of these suckers since I'm ready to cough up $1300 for the custom Arkham Batman)
But it's fair game, that's the rule of business. Seller finds suckers to buy, seller gets recanted. It's a world of sharks ans the bigger shark wins! Darwin was always right! : lol
Enough of that. That's useless debate anyway.
turbo.VS.ozone
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Even if the price of custom sculpts were lowered the recasting wouldn't stop. If somethings good it will always be copied if there is a buck to be made. If hobbyists like you continue to support that practice then custom artists will always realize that there is no value in that situation and will logically do what nets them a good amount of money for less effort and smaller supply. So technically your a serious part of the problem as a recast supporter. You run these artists off who used to offer their stuff for $40 because even under that price scenario you'll probably still complain that $40 for 1 sculpt is too much when the opportunity exists of getting 5 copies made for $40 bucks. You see what I'm getting at here? There is no middle ground. Buyers like you seem to want more for less and the custom artist will always see the value in producing less for more. The latter has a unique advantage though....you get a higher quality product and somthing that's legitimately limited which eventually becomes rare. These are things that attract a core group of collectors.
The excuse of supporting recasting on the basis of the prices of customs has gotten really lame. Support the artists, these guys are making stuff you can't get anywhere else. If it's a great product, the talent and efforts should at least be rewarded and encouraged.
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axecutioner18
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How many years back was this Dexter?
And since then, how many Trevor solo works were offered by him on the board? Please answer these technical questions...
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axecutioner18
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See you dont get it, when you want that kind of production you need not just money, but a heavy amount of personal manpower to oversee that. Enterbay learnt this the hard way on their Fist of Fury release where the very factories that made the original product ended up selling unauthorised fakes for cheap. You cant control that once factory work happens or you own a factory. Once you contract a factory, the main mould for copying may change hands as you are not present there and while your product comes out, the same contractors who may own another factory may offer the same product simultaneosly over Ebay..
Thats the harsh reality. Mass production is big business. Hot Toys own their production factories so their stuff is tightly produced inspite of that one or two sculpts may be smuggled out for production. The thing is in China lots of new factories are setting up to get contracts for production. In the idle time they dont produce legit things,they do these things to keep production running.
**16k**
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Can't say exactly, 3 or 4 years ago I guess. But don't you come and tell me that resin and silicon have increased that much since then! I know, I buy some!
Truth is, people have sniffed a great deal here and have become greedy
But hey, once again, why argue? You have your arguments and I have mine. I can live with yours. I just hope you can live with mine!:chillpill:
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