Clothing set [LIST CLOSED] 1/6 Accurate Indiana Jones Jacket

[Ecklectic]

I doubt he will have finished one complete jacket with the modifications by the end of this month let alone half of them.

 

[Luisenigma1]

Then what's the point of that team he has. Lol I mean if he can get it done the That's good if not the tailor should communicate that the new jackets will be done at a later date.

 

[jagzz]

He said he can finish half of THE JACKET (you mean jackets surely?) end of this month and the rest in May.

Just to be crystal clear and avoid any further 'confusion' the tailor said he will ship half the jackets the end of this month and the rest in May?

How can you go from looking to have all the jackets done in March to this? It makes no sense much like most of the previous updates to be fair.

Also what happened to the team he brought in? Are they all just helping him count the money?

Hi Man,

He said that 25 will be done in April, and another 25 end of May, so everything will be finish by the end of May.
He offered partial shipping, but really I preferred he ship everything in one go.
They working very hard, we will have more updates this month don't worry.
I will make sure this is the last excuse from them.

 

[jagzz]

I doubt he will have finished one complete jacket with the modifications by the end of this month let alone half of them.

I can refund your money if the wait is too long for you, don't worry I'm all ears if you have any concerns.
Again please help to understand that this is a hand made real leather jacket in 1/6 format, and he and his team trying his best to complete this in less than 6 months. Even Yunsil/Toribox team need to have more time to complete a simple fabric suit.
Again I don't want to also rush him too much on this, as I want the perfect result for our jacket.
Like everyone said it's not a cheap investment, so please again guys be patient, and if you have any concern I'm all ears

 

[The Rogster]

Jagzz, nothing but respect for you, and I don’t think anyone wants a refund.
I must say, if he and his team were hard at work, wouldn’t we have more than 1 jacket done? The way I see it, no mods have been made and no other jacket has been started. I can’t see what the team is hard at work on considering this latest update is pretty much identical to the one in March. Of course after giving the tailor $625 we are going to be at least concerned. We just want progress.
Again, I don’t want to be that guy but with a project this expensive it’s hard not to.
I have faith he’ll come through and complete the jackets I just want more transparency, and I really hope he makes the necessary modifications, it wouldn’t be right if he didn’t.

 

[Ecklectic]

I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I would like my jacket not a refund.

I never set the deadline on the jacket. I have made no demands at all. I did not even bother to make suggestions for the jacket as I felt that once the jacket entered production it would cause extra hassle for both the tailor and yourself.

While you are all ears I do have a few questions though:
You said previously you didn't want to keep bothering the tailor. May I ask how often do you contact them and how quickly do they reply to you? You also said you would not accept any more excuses. Which means you must have felt he has given them to you previously. Could you go into more detail about them?

 

[mstradford]

This is a prime example of why I'm winding down my time in the hobby. Producers should be realistic about when they can deliver, especially when they've received complete payments, which has always been problematic to me. For a buyer to make a complete payment based on a timeline that doesn't hold up gives all of the power to the tailor. Paying half upfront potentially would force more responsibility from the tailor because they'd have more motivation to stick to the deadline in order to get paid, or at the very least the likelihood of them being more communicative might improve. I'm looking forward to receiving the jacket, I'm sure it will be worth the wait, but multiply this by tailors who vanish, buildings burning down, health issues, organizer powerlessness and it just gets old, takes a lot of the fun out of the hobby. I've got this and a couple of other previously ordered pieces to be completed and delivered and then it's a wrap for me.

 

[jagzz]

Jagzz, nothing but respect for you, and I don’t think anyone wants a refund.
I must say, if he and his team were hard at work, wouldn’t we have more than 1 jacket done? The way I see it, no mods have been made and no other jacket has been started. I can’t see what the team is hard at work on considering this latest update is pretty much identical to the one in March. Of course after giving the tailor $625 we are going to be at least concerned. We just want progress.
Again, I don’t want to be that guy but with a project this expensive it’s hard not to.
I have faith he’ll come through and complete the jackets I just want more transparency, and I really hope he makes the necessary modifications, it wouldn’t be right if he didn’t.

Just give him 4-5 days to complete and assemble the new revised Jacket.

If you have a least concerned that the tailor will abandon the project or it will have another delay, please don’t. He’s a well known tailor in Korea and highly respected one. So I have 100% faith that he come through with the latest timeline he gave us.

 

[jagzz]

I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I would like my jacket not a refund.

I never set the deadline on the jacket. I have made no demands at all. I did not even bother to make suggestions for the jacket as I felt that once the jacket entered production it would cause extra hassle for both the tailor and yourself.

While you are all ears I do have a few questions though:
You said previously you didn't want to keep bothering the tailor. May I ask how often do you contact them and how quickly do they reply to you? You also said you would not accept any more excuses. Which means you must have felt he has given them to you previously. Could you go into more detail about them?

I just finished talked with him to finalize the buckle shape. So quite often, but I don’t want to keep pushing him to finish faster, as he already gave me the new timeline for completion.

He replied very quickly so there’s no problem regarding communication, only he need more time to finish the production.

Maybe not an excuse more to changing the completion date, but he firmly said that he will finish everything in May. So I trust him.

 

[Ecklectic]

This is a prime example of why I'm winding down my time in the hobby. Producers should be realistic about when they can deliver, especially when they've received complete payments, which has always been problematic to me. For a buyer to make a complete payment based on a timeline that doesn't hold up gives all of the power to the tailor. Paying half upfront potentially would force more responsibility from the tailor because they'd have more motivation to stick to the deadline in order to get paid, or at the very least the likelihood of them being more communicative might improve. I'm looking forward to receiving the jacket, I'm sure it will be worth the wait, but multiply this by tailors who vanish, buildings burning down, health issues, organizer powerlessness and it just gets old, takes a lot of the fun out of the hobby. I've got this and a couple of other previously ordered pieces to be completed and delivered and then it's a wrap for me.

This 100%. Great post.

 

[jagzz]

This is a prime example of why I'm winding down my time in the hobby. Producers should be realistic about when they can deliver, especially when they've received complete payments, which has always been problematic to me. For a buyer to make a complete payment based on a timeline that doesn't hold up gives all of the power to the tailor. Paying half upfront potentially would force more responsibility from the tailor because they'd have more motivation to stick to the deadline in order to get paid, or at the very least the likelihood of them being more communicative might improve. I'm looking forward to receiving the jacket, I'm sure it will be worth the wait, but multiply this by tailors who vanish, buildings burning down, health issues, organizer powerlessness and it just gets old, takes a lot of the fun out of the hobby. I've got this and a couple of other previously ordered pieces to be completed and delivered and then it's a wrap for me.

Sorry to gave you another bad experience on a production run. I will try my best to push this completion date within the last timeline he gave me.

 

[undergopersona]

Hey jagzz, could you update my spot in place for @greatlakes6. Thank you.

 

[jagzz]

Hey jagzz, could you update my spot in place for @greatlakes6. Thank you.

List updated.

 

[Ecklectic]

Just one more question Jagzz:

Could you ask the tailor, assuming you have not done so already, how long it takes from beginning to end to make just one of these jackets?

 

[Cap'n Cook]

This 100%. Great post.

I actually disagree 100%. At this stage of the game and at the high price point of this item, you would like to think that 1/6 collectors involved in this run would have good experience in the customs ‘game’.

Things change. Deadlines get missed or extended and, most important of all; patience is key.

But I’m honestly not trying to ‘start’ anything and fully respect the opinions and frustrations, but also want to give another angle.

 

[jagzz]

Just one more question Jagzz:

Could you ask the tailor, assuming you have not done so already, how long it takes from beginning to end to make just one of these jackets?

He made everything and cutting using a machine, and he send me a video of it. I think the most time consuming is the sewing part. But I will try to ask him how long does it takes to sew one jacket.
Here’s some picture of his workshop.

 

[The Rogster]

I can’t speak for everyone but none of my frustrations are with you Jaggz I know it’s a stressful position you’re in. I’m being patient and I will continue to be. I’ve just honestly never spent so much on a piece of 1/6 clothing. Perhaps it’s a bit intimidating in that sense

 

[jagzz]

I can’t speak for everyone but none of my frustrations are with you Jaggz I know it’s a stressful position you’re in. I’m being patient and I will continue to be. I’ve just honestly never spent so much on a piece of 1/6 clothing. Perhaps it’s a bit intimidating in that sense

Understand brother, I know that it’s a high price tag. So I also will treat this project very carefuly. Again I’m here and you can contact me anytime and I will respond as soon as I can. I’m all ears if anyone have any concern on this project. Just trust me on this, I only want the best, and hopefully all of your frustation will be wash away after you received this amazing 1/6 leather jacket.

 

[Ecklectic]

If buyers are expected to have experience in this customs game then it must follow as surely as night follows day that so must the artists in the customs game as well.

Things do change. Deadlines can be extended. Artists have to source materials from elsewhere or even rip it up and start again etc etc. These things happen. I have no problem with any of that.

If an artist has a problem then they should tell that to the person organising the run. If they set a deadline and fail to meet it then they should at least explain why. That is the bare minimum that should be expected.

 

[jagzz]

If buyers are expected to have experience in this customs game then it must follow as surely as night follows day that so must the artists in the customs game as well.

Things do change. Deadlines can be extended. Artists have to source materials from elsewhere or even rip it up and start again etc etc. These things happen. I have no problem with any of that.

If an artist has a problem then they should tell that to the person organising the run. If they set a deadline and fail to meet it then they should at least explain why. That is the bare minimum that should be expected.

For now there’s no red flag on the production itself, it just take a longer time than we expected. He’s also very sorry for the delay, I know that he’s trying his best to complete this as soon as possible.